How's My Driving?

[codename_fire]

Here for numerous reasons:
#1. I want to improve.
#2. I want to learn.
#3. I want to listen.
#4. I want to be understood.
#5. I want to play her as well as she deserves.
#6. I want to create a enjoyable experience for any potential taggers and old friends.

Anything offered is appreciated, including praise.
For the most part, what I look for in a critique is constructive criticism - this means I want to know what you like, what you're iffy about and possibly how it all can be improved all while trying to cite canon points I may have missed that may, in fact, be a rather large part of portraying her character.


tl;dr
Constructive crits please, thank you.

Comments

[darn-socks.livejournal.com]

It seems like you've extremely rushed Noin and Zechs' relationship and marriage in this game, and it makes it difficult for people to attempt cr with you. Also the fact that you didn't involve other canonmates seems off, especially Treize. From my standpoint, you're playing a group game like it's a one-on-one, and that does not work. This goes for Zechs as well, if you want to share the crit with them.

Using a sock because you've turned off anon.

[codename-fire.livejournal.com]

I can understand your point, though in the case of the marriage - this is our interpretation based on a reaction that many people have when under duress after, well, so many years of knowing each other (over 10 at this point, based on chapter 2 of the Frozen Teardrop novel). This can also easily be based off their behavior in animated canon. The old "birds of a feather" rings true here, and has for numerous individuals before us. Canonically, their impulsive behavior has been a fair constant, and Noin is rather good at this, also shows in the fact that she has no interest "in waiting". This can be interpreted as people wish, but I'd like to make, based on how Noin tends to act around Zechs based on their history, is applicable, or at least understandable from their view point.

Your point with Treize is valid, but however, this is not completely valid as Noin herself had very little to do with him - yes, he was her instructor, and yes she cared about him and went behind Zechs' back in the series to ask for advice, but the two were not as close as Zechs or Lady Une was to him (Treize himself states that Zechs and Lady Une are the two people who get him the best). In game with Treize, however, Zechs has reached out to him before as apart of an invite to said wedding, that the player was not around does not mean that he hasn't tried.
Also, considering Zechs' canon point that he's taken from, and barring that I am not playing him let alone have I tried recently to invest in his personal aims in that area, his association with Treize is going to be brief. Treize is dead. This is admittedly something that will tend to put most human beings off, to see the dead alive again, psychologically speaking, not to mention they didn't end on the best of terms. Also, the Treize in game is Treize to him, but is also a Treize who has no idea what he's gone through at this point, the duel that was ignored, the cannon that was fired (with Lady Une saving Treize from the blast), the roles that they have played and the pain and self hate that Zechs had felt at that final battle with Heero Yuy.

My question is to you then how does a married woman "put off CR"? Because when I think about the implications of that, it means that someone wanted something more out of either Zechs or Noin, and not just simple CR.

[darn-socks.livejournal.com]

It has nothing to do with the fact that she's married, as I play a married character as well and none of my others have even met either of them, much less are interested in romance. It's that so much of the plot leading up to it seemed to be out of sight to me. And the idea of panfandom play isn't to just play with one or two people.

With Treize, from what I remember from my last canon review, they both still very much respected him, so not even mentioning the wedding until right before and then not inviting him? Seems off. And no, before you make the accusation, I'm not Treize-mun. "In game with Treize, however, Zechs has reached out to him before as apart of an invite to said wedding, that the player was not around does not mean that he hasn't tried." <<What invite? Saying 'we're getting married' is not saying 'come to our wedding.' Treize is a noble. Inviting oneself would be a major faux paux.

[codename-fire.livejournal.com]

It was out of sight because it was rushed - and the rushing was intentional. It was an emotional response spurred on by them losing everything. They didn't debate on this, they did just jump into it (characteristic of them still).
And I am perfectly aware of that, neither Z or N have been exclusively tagging just each other.

Respected, perhaps, but Noin also ended up leaving OZ to follow Zechs, and was more than willing to do anything for him over OZ and Treize. They're quite good at being spontaneous.
http://gargleblasted.livejournal.com/1669054.html This thread, as far as I know, was intended to be used to invite Treize to the wedding, but as the player went on hiatus, there was little to be done. Also, I think if you're going to come to me with Zechs' CR with Treize, I would ask you not to. That's rude to the mun and that's rude to me. I would ask that if you're going to critique Zechs-mun, I'd suggest you go to them with your crits about them since it would be Zechs who would talk to Treize about the wedding.

And really, in my opinion, Treize IS a noble, which also means that he could, legitimately, crash whatever the hell he wanted. Nobles are notorious at being able to do this, their position in the aristocracy allows and sometimes even encourages this behavior. Episode 14 gives an example of Noin and Relena doing so as Relena jumps up on stage and interrupts the party to berate everyone in the room.
I've also heard that Treize, when he first posted, has absolutely no problem breaking even into private rooms. This sets a precedence. But if you're going to crit that as well, I'd suggest that you give this information to the Treize-mun, and not to me since I cannot speak for them either.

Hi there o/

[11ady]

So the HMD meme just went up and I thought it would be as good a time as any to get my crit for you in here as well. :3 On the matter of characterization, I think you're pretty all right. We've discussed our characters a lot and you understand that Noin is a strong woman. I like how you do piloting with her and the missions we played out together as a Preventer team. It's always a pleasure when we do 3-in-1 CR as Prev interacting cross-canonically with others aboard the ship.

However, I do think you've been putting too much on Noin of late? Like I think you have her breakdown far too often? Again, she's a strong woman. Sure, she can angst with the best of them but note when she breaks down in canon. It's BIG things like having her soldiers murdered in their sleep and failing to catch the one responsible. In most other things, she's pretty chill even when her heart is breaking. She's the cool team mom contrasting Une being the disciplinarian team mom. On Peacemillion, even when she was sad about Zechs, she stayed strong and didn't really show her distress. I'm not saying Noin should be stoic but she has more restraint in canon? Even when Zechs is coming at her with a beam saber, she doesn't cry. She calmly puts down her Taurus's weapon and winces, bracing herself for the death to come. I suppose what I'm trying to say is it takes A LOT to get Noin to break. What I find disheartening though is you seem to enjoy playing that angle of her to a point where she's constantly shattering. You play that angle well but it would be good to see more facets. Perhaps sign her up for missions and plots that will permit her to have more fun rather than place her in peril? Over the course of the four months Noin's been in the game she's arrived injured, witnessed two wormholings, lost Naina, lost Heero and Relena, had disagreements with Zechs, suffered sabotage to her suit and fallen prey to an eye condition. That's a lot for just four months. I'd really recommend allowing her to be happier and giving her a breather.

Thanks for bearing with my tl;dr. I consulted with Tash before posting this since she did a lot of those plots alongside you. She was an immense help in composing this. I do hope you'll take this to heart. Thank you very much.

/waves~

[codename-fire.livejournal.com]

Hahha, nope, that's all totally fine, and I think I can completely agree. I'm worn out and it's showing - and in more than just one way.

Happy does equal better and you've still a lot of points on that she is a fairly strong individual - very much so for the GW 'verse at large.

And uhm...man, sorry this is short, but you do bring up a very good point. Just need more happy things goin' 'round. <3 I'll see what I can find for that sort of thing to be able to play out because I'm legitimately becoming tired of my own crap.